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Topher10's avatar
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self labelling/diagnosis is just evidence for how utterly commodified and profitable the DSM and the resulting neurocapitalism has become.

Not to mention that ‘medical diagnosis’ in Psychiatry simply doesn’t exist - its description not explanation. Nothing more than an opinion based on subjectivity linked to a voted into existence corrupt construct .

Even the Psychiatrists responsible for ‘ASD’ have been publicly apologising for the mess they created for years, too late, once released into the culture Ian Hackings looping effect powerfully cements psychobabble as fact https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/doctor-who-broadened-autism-spectrum-sorry-for-over-diagnosis/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Marie Bryant's avatar

Bottom up processors. I read about that a few years ago, and then life got in the way and I forgot about it. Thanks for bringing it up! It matters to me.

Lana B.'s avatar

Thank you. I am a neurodivergent clinician serving neurodivergent people and I feel so shut down when people tell me I’m not “talking in science” when I echo your research.

Now I have science to back me up to bullies

Your work is appreciated more than you know

Alice Caudle's avatar

This takes me back to my days as an early years teacher … it felt like the next stage of learning for every autistic child was to do something “ new “… for example not play with the water / trucks / sand and play with other things too and even then at the beginning of my career I thought but why ? If they are happy - why ? Similarly children were deemed not deeply engaged if they were moving from one thing to the next … I now recognise a lot of these children had adhd . At the time I argued they were deeply engaged in doing all the things - and if left they often circled back in ways that could only be observed over long periods .

Lemon Brain's avatar

My issue was accessing resources once I was diagnosed. It’s like “yay! I’m believed now” then people closing doors in my face because 1)I don’t work with ASD or 2) This is only available to children 😫

The Therapy Within's avatar

OMG it’s nearly 4am here and I’m going to have to come back to this.

But this piece reminded me I put card pockets in all my books as a kid. Should I ever want to take them out of my personal library. In my own bedroom. And yes. They were all in alphabetical order.

Sheesh.

Diana W's avatar

What a really helpful subject to have analysed; thank you.

Leslie Heywood's avatar

You are amazing and this work is so important--thank you!

Dr. Angela Kingdon's avatar

Thanks for reading and your feedback!

JC's avatar

Wow, a fascinating read. I was diagnosed with autism 6 months ago at 33 and had only suspected it for about a year or year and a half prior. Like many, I did not understand the nuance of autism in women specifically and once I finally locked in on researching the topic extensively, it was undeniable. My evaluator was female and the evaluation was done over multiple hours on multiple days. I just saw a male psychiatrist last week who dismissed the diagnosis within an hour of meeting me saying I'm "too articulate" to be autistic. I frankly found it very gross behavior for a psychiatrist and I've had plenty of terrible experiences with psychs, unfortunately. A common theme of denying my lived experience.

Kerrie Hill's avatar

I was diagnosed with Autism & ADHD earlier this year, I'm 51 years old now. I was told by a psychiatrist friend that they didn't see the Autism. I started trying to justify a diagnosis (that I didn't agree with at first because it I a lot to process).

What I wished I had been able to say was, the diagnostic criteria is written by and for those outside looking at a presentation that makes them uncomfortable because it is different. They struggle to control it, and understand the motivation for it, so there must be a deficit in the person rather than the environment.

I have spent my life masking thoughts, feelings, and behaviours, to make those around me more comfortable. This has resulted in substance abuse, emotional abuse, domestic abuse, emotional disregulation, and unsurprisingly a list of mental health problems. It is difficult to stop masking and painful to continue.

Difficult because I will be accused of making myself more autistic for attention, and it is now a learned behaviour easy to slip back into but exhausting. Painful because now I know the masking caused so much damage, I have felt the difference of not masking, I notice the difference when I let myself stim or be absorbed, or don't make eye contact, or don't engage in small talk.

I wish I had said I am happy to explain this to you from a lived experience, rather than trying to justify it by listing diagnostic criteria.

Dawn-Marie Solais's avatar

Wonderful! Thank you for all your hard work. I'd love to have you on my YouTube channel to talk about your research and it's implications. YouTube.com/@neuroawesomelife

Dr. Angela Kingdon's avatar

Yes please! You can email me

I look forward to the conversation!

Dawn-Marie Solais's avatar

I would recommend that you edit your comment and take your email address out. I wouldn't want trolls or bots to get a hold of it.

Shawna Coppola's avatar

This post made me cry. I just published a zine on my own Substack about my experience as an autistic woman seeking a “clinical” diagnosis and (long story short) it was a MESS. Thank you so much for your work on this and for sharing it here!!

Soph (she/they)'s avatar

Thank you for finally acknowledging us who are self-identifying for many reasons!!!

“find an autism led group to join”—-> any leads?

Nicole G's avatar

Just read your post about this over on Facebook and came directly here to share it on Reddit